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nach0
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I am compiling here information taken from internet.

Mac Baren labeling code:

## ## ### #
|  |  |   |
|  |  |   `- Shift (day or night, I think)
|  |  `----- Day of the year (e.g. 154 corresponds to Jun the 3rd)
|  `-------- Year (14 is 2014)
`----------- Packing machine 

 

Peterson
YYDDMMXXXX
2003043214 = April 03, 2020

Orlick
YYXXMMXXDD
2124061407 = June 07, 2021

Scandinavian Tobacco
XXXXYMDX
CB312C8C = March 8, 2012

CB - The manufacturer: Scandinavian Tobacco in Assens/Denmark.
31 - The machine on which it was produced.
2 - The year of production starting with 2010 (2012).
C - The month of production in order A-L (March).
8 - The day of production within that month (March 8th).
C - Plant Shift

Samuel Gawith
DDMMM
Last 3 digits of code is Month starting December 1995. So December 1995 is 001, December 1996 is 013.
15296 = July 15, 2020

Germain
XXXYMMX
Where Y=Letter code for year with A = 2016

237E104 = October 2020

Esoterica
YXXXMMX
Where Y = last digit of year after 2010
873C053 = May 2018

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nach0
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I've found 2 different explanations about Peter Stokkebye.

Peter Stokkebye
yymmXXXX
20042134 = April 2020

Peter Stokkebye
First four digits = Batch Number

Second set of four digits = Production date as follows:
1st and 2nd numbers = last two digits of production date (the year)
3rd and 4th numbers = week of production (1-52 weeks in a year)
0815 2020 = 20th week of 2020 (mid May 2020)

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I need your help. I found on my Pencanze bag only one code: 688023 . Do you have an idea to date it?

I looked over minutes and could not found another code

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BriarBerg
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Where is the code on yours? Is it where the one pictured is? 

That's one digit off from the code key @nach0 provided, it's missing the letter that was in his example of 873C053 and the one that's in the picture I posted, but maybe if instead of being YXXXMMX, I could see it being YXXMMX which would be Feb 2016.

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BriarBerg
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Actually, after poking around other sources, it seems like there are inconsistencies that work against a verifiable reading of these codes to glean a production date. The bag I posted has 8 digits, I figured that might be because it's in the 2020s, some folks say the letter designates the year, but not all of them have a letter. Not sure there is an accurate way to read it. 

I would assume yours is a little older because it seems the letters were introduced more recently, 2016+, but hard to tell. 

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First of all thank you for your effort. 2016 is probably right and the seller told so. I have another bag And So To Bed and its code is 647072. No letters.  That means July 2016 ,right?  The digit for the year counts from 2010 ?  

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Cornell & Diehl
mmddyy
031520 = March 15, 2020

GL Pease
mmddyy
031520 = March 15, 2020

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BriarBerg
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Here is one for K&K. More recent K&K tins now use the Cornell & Diehl date sticker, at least in the US market. But anything older than the last year or so has the letter code (and maybe still in other markets depending on distribution). 

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nach0
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perfect!! 🍻 

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Purple Potato
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My Marybelone has a double-character code for day. Since Z only takes us to 26, I'm assuming that signifies going "around the clock" as so:

AA = 27

AB = 28

AC = 29

AD = 30

AE = 31

Why they didn't just the date instead of these weird codes I dunno. But fwiw, that's my guess here.

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Juan José Pascual Lobo
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Who knows..., but I find this a bit irrelevant to date a tin. Four of five days are nothing to date a tin. What really matters is month and year. And yes, a tin date with just the calendar date, like C&D does is simpler and easier to understand, but in the other hand, what would smoking a pipe be without a bit of mystery and esotericism only for the initiated?.

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Juan José Pascual Lobo
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@BriarBerg. Could this thread be sticky?

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